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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 17:48:36 +0100 (MET)
From: laporte@imaginet.fr (pascal laporte)
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Subject: Re: Les bons sauvages sont exotiques....

>
>To:conflits_l@lglobal.com
>From:laporte@imaginet.fr (pascal laporte)
>Subject:Re: Les bons sauvages sont exotiques....
>
>l'essentiel des protestations au moment de l'arrivee des sans papiers a
>l'odeon sont venues de mexicains ( en exil ? sans papiers? refugies
>politiques? artistes ? ) qui etaient dans la salle.
>La reaction des representants zapatistes denoncant "le climat d'exclusion"
>de l'intervention du collectif "des papiers pour tous" etait scandaleuse.
>
>Il faut reconnaitre que la culture politique n'est pas la meme; tandis que
>le debat s'instaurait tant bien que mal dans la salle, nous vidions le bar
>du theatre en buvant a la sante du zapatisme politiquement correct.
>
>Il est tout de meme curieux que les zapatistes venus en france pour
>internationaliser leur preoccupations n'aient pas compri que l'arrivee
>"inopinee" des sans papiers constituait un hommage a la lutte des indiens
>du chiapas.
>
>Si les sans papiers etaient arrives cagoules, peut-etre que la mayonnaise
>aurait mieux pris.
>
>des que j'aurais trouve un mac pour numeriser ma bande video realisee ce
>soir la, je vous indiquerais une adresse web de consultation.
>
>quand a la contribution consternante de Celine Cazals, il faut lui repondre
>mais sans creer de " climat d'exclusion". Je ne m'en sens pas le courage
>et la patience, je ne dois pas etre un bon zapatiste...
>>_______________________________________________________
>>CONFLITS_L
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>>Une contribution m'est parvenue de la liste "chiapas"....
>>Ca me laisse pantois. Un cote "nos negres ne savent pas se tenir" qui de la
>>part d'une militante anti neoliberalisme a de quoi consterner !
>>
>>Alors si l'un de vous se sent le courage de lui repondre en anglais...
>>
>>PL
>>
>>
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>>-------------- Forwarded message ----------
>>Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 21:00:47 +0100
>>From: Celine Cazals <balamol@worldnet.net>
>>Reply-To: chiapas-l@profmexis.sar.net
>>To: chiapas-l@profmexis.sar.net
>>Subject: FRENCH MEETING IN PARIS ABORTED!
>>
>>PARIS, FRANCE 11 NOVEMBER - 8.30 PM: ZAPATISTA MEETING AT THE "THEATRE DE
>>L'ODEON" IN PARIS HAS ABORTED, EVEN BEFORE ITS START.
>>Tonight I assisted to a real proof of wisdom, from the zapatista
>>delegation, and to a real proof of stupidity, childwood and unresonnable
>>manners from the french movement "Sans Papiers".
>>Right after the show of 3 movies taking place in Chiapas (with Marcos and
>>stuff), which were really good, hundreds of people arrived, "invaded" the
>>theatre, screaming kind of "Identity Papers for no owner of them". They are
>>people without identity papers, and so unable to work or take an appartment
>>and ect...We All understand them, no problem. It's because of "the Pasqua
>>Laws" that make a "difference between french people and people born in
>>France, or that have migrated in france".
>>But as these people arrived in the thetre, it seemed that there were no
>>excuse to concentrate on zapatista delegation. And this evening was
>>especially for EZLN. They came here by plane to discuss, present their
>>movement, organisation that is concerning every part of the world.
>>So 30 minutes after this, the zapatista woman(sorry I really can't find her
>>name), said after the screaming "OK, I understand there is a lot of tension
>>here, and you all need to talk, and we all need to listen, so we leave
>>you
>>to talk, and after, at the end, if there's a little time left, we'll can
>>talk about EZLN."
>>Such wisdom in her reeaction.
>>
>>You know, these french "Sans Papiers" are suffering a great deal, we have
>>to forgive them for showing no respect for the initial purpose of this
>>meeting, but you see, these people heve all the press with them. They talk
>>on TV, journalists, philosophers, priests, all the media, everyone's with
>>them.
>>Today they took this meeting for them, and they looked like children
>>comparing to the three zapatista people of the delegation.
>>Please let me know they can organize a debate in Paris this week anyway.
>>EZLN deserve articles, reports, actions here. THEY are an exemple of well
>>organised and mature movement, as well as their great convictions.
>>Que viva zapatistas!!!
>>Please answer me.
>>Celine Cazals.
>>
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